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    « on: February 15, 2009, 08:58:16 PM »

    So my idea is this:
    Instead of disguising as players, the spy disguises as props, namely dropped weapons.  While disguised, the spy cannot move but the amount of time it takes to disguise (both in and out) is drastically decreased.  You obviously can't spy check every piece of dropped ammo, making him harder to detect but if he is detected, its much harder for him to get away since he can't move.

    If nothing else, it'd be hilarious so see a spy disguised as a sandvitch then back stab a heavy.

    I'm thinking about submitting this to valve but I'd like to hear your take on it first.
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    « Reply #1 on: February 15, 2009, 09:32:38 PM »

    i think it would be cool to see maybe as a mod, but i dont think that Valve would put it up as an official update
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    « Reply #2 on: February 15, 2009, 11:12:14 PM »

    I know TF2 is cartoonish, but I don't think shapeshifting into a dispenser, sandvich, or even a sentry, would go in even Valve's logic. But it is a hilarious idea. I demand a mod >:|
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    « Reply #3 on: February 15, 2009, 11:50:51 PM »

    DISPENSOR HEREEE and BAM stab great idea but dont think valve would maybe  for the meet the spy vid?
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    « Reply #4 on: February 16, 2009, 03:51:43 AM »

    I saw that dispenser idea in 101 Uses For A Dispenser Part 9
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    « Reply #5 on: February 16, 2009, 07:43:34 AM »

    lol and then valve will fuck up and there will be some glitch to where you can run at normal speed and still be disguised as a dispenser.... and be running across rooftops and jump out and kill people.. .mmmm.... i love the implications of this glitch.. MOAR PLEEZ
    personally... instead of a disguise upgrade.. i think they can do away with the spies cloak (i know... sad) and do away with the disguise (not sad.. seeing how it is rather useless and i usually run around w/o one) and replace them both with a camoflage that blends you (slightly) with the surroundings... for those who were here with AvP2 it would look somthing like the predator cloak .... ie. in shadows and when not moving they r completely bitches to find... and it is always active..
    it still gives people a chance to see them, but makes them more sneaky spy-like
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    « Reply #6 on: February 16, 2009, 10:01:09 AM »

    i like that idea you dick

    i really do
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    « Reply #7 on: February 16, 2009, 08:57:56 PM »

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    I know TF2 is cartoonish, but I don't think shapeshifting into a dispenser, sandvich, or even a sentry, would go in even Valve's logic. But it is a hilarious idea. I demand a mod >:|


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    « Reply #8 on: February 16, 2009, 09:15:47 PM »

    lol  got ya undakada   oh yah was gonna say i downloaded a  lord salron armor set for obliv and  some dragons
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    « Reply #9 on: February 17, 2009, 08:19:39 AM »

    I think it would be a little bit of a reach in the minds of valve.  The spy can disguise as other people, not inanimate objects that have no legs, arms, or a place for a cigarette to go.
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    « Reply #10 on: February 17, 2009, 03:57:58 PM »

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    « Reply #11 on: February 17, 2009, 04:06:13 PM »

    or i say some enhancements to the spies current disguises like when he is medic a medibeam would appear but it wouldn't actually heal anything and it would be up the the sucker i mean victim to notice
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    « Reply #12 on: February 18, 2009, 07:52:32 PM »

    Maybe just find a total replacement to the nearly useless disguise case.  All it does is trick idiots, and sentries.  Everyone else will check you.  The spy needs a change to the whole way he is played.  He needs something else to help him move unseen.  The disguise case was meant to help you get close to the enemy, but it's too obvious.  All the good spies out there work on stabbing people who don't even know they are there.

    An alternative would be something that temporarily boosts your speed, but only when you're not under fire. That way you can approach your target more easily, and give less time for them to react, but it won't give the spy better escape mechanisms.
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    « Reply #13 on: February 18, 2009, 08:38:47 PM »

    COOL STEAM FORUM IDEA BRO

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    « Reply #14 on: February 21, 2009, 10:47:16 PM »

    Who reads the steam forum?  Does Valve DSS? Does Valve Touch Dicks Real Soft?  No.  I get my information AND my favors from {TD}.
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    « Reply #15 on: February 22, 2009, 06:17:55 AM »

    lol more speed for the Slow Ass Spy would be sexy!
    but ima hafta go with Camo to replace the useless disguise and semi-awsome-cloak-that-runs-out-when-you-need-it
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    « Reply #16 on: February 22, 2009, 06:30:37 AM »

    I think the spy should be able to faint death. Like in TFC
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    « Reply #17 on: February 22, 2009, 08:06:50 AM »

    am i the only one who doesnt have said problems while playing spy? cloaking and disguising almost always works for me...
    might just be playing against dumbasses
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    « Reply #18 on: February 22, 2009, 09:32:08 AM »

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    am i the only one who doesnt have said problems while playing spy? cloaking and disguising almost always works for me...
    might just be playing against dumbasses


    have you ever played with hoards of noob pyros who run around flaming constantly? Or stand in one place and just flame for minutes on end? That is when the spy feels left out. I hate noob pyros, they give pyros a bad name
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    « Reply #19 on: February 22, 2009, 09:44:58 AM »

    Mouse 1 + W
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    « Reply #20 on: February 22, 2009, 12:40:50 PM »

    or u can ignore those pyros.. single out the Heavies and Soldiers because they r the only ones you r faster than
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    « Reply #21 on: February 22, 2009, 01:41:28 PM »

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    am i the only one who doesnt have said problems while playing spy? cloaking and disguising almost always works for me...
    might just be playing against dumbasses


    have you ever played with hoards of noob pyros who run around flaming constantly? Or stand in one place and just flame for minutes on end? That is when the spy feels left out. I hate noob pyros, they give pyros a bad name


    In all fairness, if the enemy team has a lot of spy counters, you shouldn't be able to play a good spy.  It's frustrating, but you need to use another class in that circumstance.

    The cloak works fine for me, but the disguise case only fools sentry guns.
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    « Reply #22 on: February 22, 2009, 01:57:21 PM »

    I think being a good spy mean having Quick thinking and be able to anticipate. With that, you can kill as long as you wish.
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    « Reply #23 on: February 23, 2009, 12:35:04 PM »

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    am i the only one who doesnt have said problems while playing spy? cloaking and disguising almost always works for me...
    might just be playing against dumbasses


    have you ever played with hoards of noob pyros who run around flaming constantly? Or stand in one place and just flame for minutes on end? That is when the spy feels left out. I hate noob pyros, they give pyros a bad name


    In all fairness, if the enemy team has a lot of spy counters, you shouldn't be able to play a good spy.  It's frustrating, but you need to use another class in that circumstance.

    The cloak works fine for me, but the disguise case only fools sentry guns.


    I agree, i normally only play spy when i need something done or am bored. Just trying to defend the lowly pyro that every one seems to hate
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    « Reply #24 on: February 23, 2009, 02:06:53 PM »

    I love pyro
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    « Reply #25 on: February 23, 2009, 06:24:54 PM »

    i tend to make past alot of spy checkers
    thats how i started playing in the server
    just a fucking annoying ass spy or medic
    also a rather annoying scout
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    « Reply #26 on: February 24, 2009, 11:34:42 PM »

    So I was just checking out the update news on the Steam site. They also released a small update for the spy, allowing him to change which weapon the other team sees him holding. Maybe that will help with disguise case issues, at least for a little bit.
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