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Any potential Reqruits need to post a pre-membership application here, please include, species specialization and any other information you can think of here along with your Application, Thank you!
(note: Current TDRS members, do not use this board as a chatting thread, thats what all the others are for!! Please limit this boards use to strickly TDRS reqruitement issues please!!
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2005, 07:11:46 PM » |
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Name: DarkJester I would like to join TDRS I usually use Corps and Preds, but i am good with all species. If you need any more information ask your fellow members of my abilities Thank you for your time
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2005, 07:39:56 PM » |
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i recommended DarkJester... he is a good player with great skills
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2005, 01:04:50 AM » |
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Same here, he has a great attitude
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2005, 02:11:14 AM » |
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I say definately YES!
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2005, 05:36:56 AM » |
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2005, 04:57:18 PM » |
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alright sounds like its a go, i'll try him out and we can see from there
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2005, 10:50:17 PM » |
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SO I guess I have to restart the thread again.. lol I'll do that everytime to make this thread fresh.. so like everytime someone puts up an application I'll re-make the thread so we wont have to scroll through the endless posts
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2005, 05:38:04 PM » |
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never played with dark jester before but he sounds like a cool guy so my votes yes
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2005, 05:40:39 PM » |
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Okie....well Ice told me to come here and yeah tell you what im good at.....so um... :thinking: Well I am best with Johnson and using the pulse rifle, handgun, and shotgun. I am excellent at killing most aliens, and good at killing humans and preds. =/ Well...idk what else to say, so ttyl? Lol :rolleyes:
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2005, 06:05:25 PM » |
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Dictator recommended me to this clan, it looks good so I think I want to join. the name that I use is raVen , I use corps and Preds but I am pretty good all around, I'm on whenever im at dicks house 
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2005, 06:10:10 PM » |
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i did recommend him because he is almost my equal.
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2005, 07:58:43 PM » |
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Sweet kk so we got raven and Gaignun that wanna join, will a time where we can try you out, just look for me on the server or one of the guys
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2005, 06:02:57 AM » |
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I've seen RaVen here and there... and from what i see he's good So my Vote Is yes
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2005, 03:04:22 PM » |
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what time do we get on to all be here for a discussion?
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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2005, 04:17:11 PM » |
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Hey, I got a friend and he's damn good... he's like a surgeon with a s.rilfe... well enough said... i've recommended him I thought he would play a nice part in this clan. Later
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2005, 10:56:06 PM » |
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I did tell Giagun Jr. about this he is a good player form my eyes i want everyone to check him out first though Dom what u think can we try him out sometime?
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2005, 01:15:32 AM » |
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Yea dude, we got alot of members to try out now shit, but lets do it, I love it!
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2005, 09:59:47 AM » |
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2005, 11:51:00 AM » |
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a clan with too many members is never a good thing fellas never kno who will betray or is a spy :stare:
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2005, 12:00:20 PM » |
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very true plus low number makes us look better like we aren't some measly clan ya know what i'm saying
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2005, 12:53:14 PM » |
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Im agreeing with Safford and Mass on this one. I like the low numbers. new members is great but I think all of the people that are on TDare very skilled and deserve plau i donbt want TD to become like JSK were like if a noob wants to join hes allowed thats wak! I like all the TD members now and i personallly like the small uniqueness we have.
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2005, 01:47:30 PM » |
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Iceman has a point, if we do get too many members... its not a clan anymore... its just people... keep it low... keep it godlike... push it high... we will blow... The Original TD members were and still are the best... Sadly i play no part in that... But as i was saying... Dom if we are going to recruit... we should count up the members and only add about 3 or 4 more members... cause TD is getting huge... way huge... But your the boss... you decide what happens... and i follow. Later
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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2005, 02:40:54 PM » |
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No dark, I agree, dont call me boss bro, were all buds man lol, TD is all the same rank, just diff levels of respect. Yea I dont think will recruit that many members, 2 at most im not sure what I wanna do I gotta recap on who is realy here and who is not.
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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2005, 02:42:32 PM » |
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I agree with Iceman, I mean some people that join, such as Nerdy Monkey dont even have AVP, so how did he join??
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« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2005, 03:38:00 PM » |
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Yeah and Friple118, I saw him with another clans tags on so you can cut him.
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« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2005, 03:45:48 PM » |
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Most of the People in the Forum's aren't even Clan members if thats what your trying to point out..*raven* dont fret... cause i don't believe he is... unless your saying he's in another clan... because to my knowledge he isnt in this one
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« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2005, 03:47:03 PM » |
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Just showing you my Respect Dom... your the reason i'm apart of the best clan in AvP so, therefore you have my highest respect.
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« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2005, 09:42:35 PM » |
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Thanks DJ i have respect for you to bro, we're here to have fun and lets keep it going and I kicked fripple out but yea will keep it low
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« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2005, 09:43:37 PM » |
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So Dom made up a new word and i think it totally describes all of us in TD its uniquees! <<< True words!
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« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2005, 09:53:20 PM » |
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I love it, man I'm good.........meh not really yes....confused muhaha!
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« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2005, 12:11:57 AM » |
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We had this problem ages ago, with too many members Dom was forced to cut some players, i think Veteran TD'ers should be allowed to come back, but no more members should be joining now, no matter how good they are, too many and its hard to keep track of them, my highest respects to Dom for keeping me in the clan so long ago, but maybe we should stop the recruitment for awhile and work out who is still with us and whos just signed up to say that they are one of us...
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« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2005, 12:33:42 AM » |
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Am i missing something in this whole area 
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« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2005, 05:04:59 AM » |
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Well we have 35 members, some of which dont do anything on here or just sign up for no aparent reason, i reackon we need to stop recruitment and sort out who is and who isnt with TD.
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« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2005, 05:14:42 AM » |
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Aye Echo, You have a great point, but we shouldnt remove the original members... no matter how long its been... because when they come back... they will think.... WTF... as for recent members who are never on... I myself am on almost all day... and i post alot as of recent... so i have no problem with removing the members that play no part in Avp or this clan anymore. what do you think Dom?
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« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2005, 05:46:03 AM » |
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I never sed the original members or people that are in the clan but havent posted, just meant people like this "analprobenator" (who the hell is that anyway?), that dont do anything. People like Zero and Cutie that havent posted for a bit dont have to be kicked just reatrds that join for no reason.
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« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2005, 05:50:11 AM » |
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Personally I think the people who don't comment are from other clans... seeing what we do... so banning them some way would be for the best
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« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2005, 06:09:52 AM » |
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just don't ban me please, i'm no spy, i'm just your buddy. y'all know that right?
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« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2005, 06:29:53 AM » |
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No one is going to ban you Kula. We know you kick ass and don't spy.
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« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2005, 07:44:44 AM » |
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sweet. BTW i'll be getting on AvP today for a while, i hope you guys are will ne on so i can kill you! :cool: it's gonna be fun!
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« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2005, 11:21:08 AM » |
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I'll be on later tonight.
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« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2005, 12:18:30 PM » |
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I Was Just Bringing Up Facts You People Dont Have To Listen To Me About {TD} Im Just A Here And There Player. But I Do Suggest What Would Be Best "In My Opinion" (Clan Experience's  ) For {TD} So The Clan Can Live Long And Grow Strong. If It Grows To Big... *1*Its Like A Fat Person You Will Get To Lazy To Make Clan Training Trying To Get Everyone Here. *1.2* And If We Get To Many People Think About it A Server Is Only A 16 Person Thing. Haveing More Then 16 Clan Members Isnt Really A Good Idea Because If There Is A Training Day... We Cant Get All Of Them In There Meaning The Clan Is Too Big. *2* Dont Even Kno Who Really Wants To Be a {TD} But There Friend Who is In {TD} Recommends Them... Do They Kno There Friend isnt In Another Clan??? (No Offense)  . *3* Take Note Im Just Speaking my Mind of How {TD} is Probably Best Being. From Experience. *4* As Long As The Members We Have Currently of {TD} Continue To Play We Dont Need More Numbers its Fine If You See 1 {TD} Person a Day Thats Good Enough. *5* And If You Love {TD} You Wouldnt Quit On Us So If You Currently Like Another Clan Not Counting You KulaMan  Think If Quiting {TD} Is Really Worth It... And Thus Clan Size Maximum: 16 People (In My Opinion) *P.S* Any One Who Reads This Post About It I Would Like To Read Your Opinions Even Though This Post Was More Towards Dom. ....:::The Red Comet:::.... ~*~*~OUT~*~*~
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« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2005, 12:32:48 PM » |
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thanks for that Gladiator, i love you guys. you're one of the coolest clans around anymore
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« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2005, 01:06:56 PM » |
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Just Speakin My Knowledge =\
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« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2005, 02:44:55 PM » |
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Anyone Heard from Ras... as of late?
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« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2005, 03:06:27 PM » |
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« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2005, 03:57:18 PM » |
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« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2005, 06:51:57 PM » |
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« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2005, 09:03:59 PM » |
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KK I love what you guys think and I think Im gonna go that way, I love your advice guys it helps out TD become stronger everyday, and I love Kula man because he's like the boss that walks by and says, "hey, your fucking awsome" and gives you a big tumbs up lol I love kulaman lol marry me, jk. Moving on Everything you guys had to say was awsome, Echo is right and one thing Anal Prob are my friends, it these girls we hang out there cool, People on the forum dont have to be on TD, we realy dont have anything to hide, We don't do clan battles unless it is for fun cuz then its fun. And I'm done recruiting except for one person V-16, he was in |Voodoo| and voodoo is over with and he wants to be in a clan and we were always cool, its up to you guys, what Im doing is seeing who is playing and who isnt because this is alot like before when people dont play and i get more people and then they come back, well I wont do that again. Good things Said Dark and Glad. Glad has good experence with clans lol what clan hasnt he been in before TD is the question lol. So all good ideas, keep it up and will take alot at these other guys who wish to join.
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« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2005, 09:09:14 PM » |
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My oppinion is this... If you truely see a great player... i mean basically godlike... recruit fast... that would be the way to go... so far The members of TD are already like this... lol So its all good... Oy i figured out something... Only kickass AVP players live in Illi... aight well Dom you are the main man at this and well Glad is like your advisor so its up to you guys... i hope my oppinions have helped in anyway Later
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Your all my advisors, V-16 is god-like, Voodoo was like TD you had to be really good to be on it I think I'll recruit him, Im waiting to hear from everyone else
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« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2005, 10:03:51 PM » |
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V-16 ive known him for a very long time *BaK*Pulser*AstLdr* hes very good loyal and was in .:ODST:. with me i say recruited. BUT NO MORE PEOPLE.
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« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2005, 11:52:19 PM » |
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« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2005, 09:36:58 PM » |
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« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2005, 11:05:33 AM » |
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|voodoo| wasnt a chareter, it was a clan with highly skilled people, if they were still around, they could show us alot, the best sniper was in that clan and she showed me so much and she wanted to pass it on to me, I wont compare myself to her because I think everyone is better than me so I keep my eyes open and learned from everyone, if you think your the best you will fail because you block yourself off from learing you and everyone will pass you. Voodoo had a good saying, your only as good as you think you are, when you understand that you will become better, and those of you that have watched cKy when I hear voodoo it makes me wanna say woo doo doo
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oh yeah, before amy quit AvP for good, she was asking me to join VooDoo for a long time i never did because i was in HoD, actually, Amy was in HoD for a while, and in HoN she lasted longer in HoD... i think it was 9 hours in HoN In HoD we have an ex-voodoo as well, DeSaint, he's a good alien. i'd say about as good as Dom
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Yea I have played Desaint wasnt to bad. Oh yea Amy was in TD along with Soul Reaver who went by Vengence, they were in there for awhile untill BaK came back and I think F8 and she started voodoo back up.
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« Reply #58 on: August 27, 2005, 01:23:26 PM » |
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that soul reaver bastard stole my name... i was usin that name when i first started playin... i started playin when the game came out... i was even usin it in the original AvP2... i should tear his liver out
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Every time I check this thread I get really pissed off because it's so HUGE Like Tater's DICK (it hurts)
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« Reply #59 on: August 27, 2005, 03:19:28 PM » |
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Yeah dom i remember amy and vengence from voodoo..they were damn good. As soon as amy would come into my sight i would get shot so quickly that there was nothing i could do. I haven't seen them around at all and if they are like you said they could give us a lot of tips to make us all better.
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« Reply #60 on: August 27, 2005, 04:03:10 PM » |
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From what im hearingthese people are legondary and to tell u the truth i think i would like our whole clan to become that good one day.
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« Reply #61 on: August 28, 2005, 04:02:04 AM » |
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In a sense we are... we each have our talents picked out and we know what we can do... so all is good for now... and you only get better as the clock goes by eh
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« Reply #62 on: August 28, 2005, 11:23:13 AM » |
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« Reply #63 on: August 29, 2005, 10:20:59 PM » |
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Yea DJ is totaly right, Amy pretty much passed on everything she has known about sniping then I learned more from then on, and she told me what Kula knows about runner and I watch him play and study him and then learn from then on, I dont know that much about pred but im learing from a lengendary guy, but we should teach each other stuff we do, we would get sooo good!
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« Reply #64 on: August 30, 2005, 02:06:28 AM » |
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This is how a Team should be... Helping each other along the way...
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« Reply #65 on: September 04, 2005, 11:26:53 PM » |
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yeah man I hold voodoo in high regards they are like the most well known players evah
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« Reply #66 on: September 05, 2005, 11:07:49 AM » |
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Surprisingly enough, most players on PH don?t seem to have ever heard of me? even tho I was considered good enough for voodoo? it's kinda insulting actually :mad:
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« Reply #67 on: September 05, 2005, 06:45:26 PM » |
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with all the newbs the PH blood is watered down. I bet no one has heard of any of my names anymore
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« Reply #68 on: September 06, 2005, 12:55:02 AM » |
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It's good to be known and everything, but I don't let that bother me, I just want to know the people who are fun to play with, I don't care about how popular or how many people know me, thats not why im here.
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« Reply #69 on: September 07, 2005, 07:52:59 PM » |
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MWAHAAHAAH OMFG hilarity abound<---insiders joke
yeah not many people know of me.........I think you know why would you want to be known kula? I'd rather have my close net of friends knowing of my (lack of)greatness than all of AvPtopia.
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« Reply #70 on: September 08, 2005, 03:22:10 PM » |
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personally... i just dont like to be forgotten... i dont care if im remembered as the biggest shit head, worst player, or anythin like that. as long as people dont forget me.
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« Reply #71 on: September 08, 2005, 04:37:57 PM » |
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Heh yeah I'm not known at all on AVP PH, I just got PH the other day but I have been playing AvP2 for a little while, Derek err... ras has been helping me out a little with my skills I like cock in ass action on a daily basis from my mother
I MEAN BIG ASS FUCKING UNTIL I BLEED SHIT!!!! OMG FUCK ME IN THA ASS TIM!!
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« Reply #72 on: September 15, 2005, 03:40:59 PM » |
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Yeah with my training you might be decent
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« Reply #73 on: September 15, 2005, 03:49:01 PM » |
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I Was Just Bringing Up Facts You People Dont Have To Listen To Me About {TD} Im Just A Here And There Player. But I Do Suggest What Would Be Best "In My Opinion" (Clan Experience's  ) For {TD} So The Clan Can Live Long And Grow Strong. If It Grows To Big... *1*Its Like A Fat Person You Will Get To Lazy To Make Clan Training Trying To Get Everyone Here. *1.2* And If We Get To Many People Think About it A Server Is Only A 16 Person Thing. Haveing More Then 16 Clan Members Isnt Really A Good Idea Because If There Is A Training Day... We Cant Get All Of Them In There Meaning The Clan Is Too Big. *2* Dont Even Kno Who Really Wants To Be a {TD} But There Friend Who is In {TD} Recommends Them... Do They Kno There Friend isnt In Another Clan??? (No Offense)  . *3* Take Note Im Just Speaking my Mind of How {TD} is Probably Best Being. From Experience. *4* As Long As The Members We Have Currently of {TD} Continue To Play We Dont Need More Numbers its Fine If You See 1 {TD} Person a Day Thats Good Enough. *5* And If You Love {TD} You Wouldnt Quit On Us So If You Currently Like Another Clan Not Counting You KulaMan  Think If Quiting {TD} Is Really Worth It... And Thus Clan Size Maximum: 16 People (In My Opinion) *P.S* Any One Who Reads This Post About It I Would Like To Read Your Opinions Even Though This Post Was More Towards Dom. ....:::The Red Comet:::.... ~*~*~OUT~*~*~ ok back onto this.. just refreshing it NO MORE MEMBERS!!!
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« Reply #74 on: September 29, 2005, 05:29:50 PM » |
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Dude i havent recruited anyone since the boondocks so it's all good
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« Reply #75 on: September 30, 2005, 08:27:44 AM » |
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well, the truth of the matter is... you can have a server that takes like, 200 people, i saw one that had about 30 one time and it was nuts. if anyone wants to know how to set up a server to do that... i'll go into it in another post
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« Reply #76 on: October 01, 2005, 05:39:22 PM » |
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You Edit The Game But The Codeing Doesnt Work It Will Only Have 16 People Not 17 I Edited My .:ODST:. Servers Back In The Day To Hold 88 - 100 People. But It Only Holds 16 Max If A 17th Person Trys To Join There Game Gets Frozen.
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« Reply #77 on: October 02, 2005, 07:19:56 AM » |
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the game didn't freeze when i did it. it was my server that had 30 some people in it, and after 16 join, their names stop showing up on the score board, or in the sever window. also they can't talk if they're #17 or higher
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« Reply #78 on: October 02, 2005, 07:57:12 AM » |
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Exactly What I Mean Same Thing You Said But They Cant Really Play They Freeze In There Spawning Point.
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« Reply #79 on: October 02, 2005, 01:59:46 PM » |
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no, see, they could play, it seemed like there were a million people running around so it was madness but when you killed #17 or higher, you didn't get a kill message, but your score still increased
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« Reply #80 on: October 02, 2005, 03:34:15 PM » |
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sounds like somw fun
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« Reply #81 on: October 02, 2005, 04:12:00 PM » |
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i can imagine going on a runner rampage in that saweet!
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« Reply #82 on: October 02, 2005, 09:21:47 PM » |
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Whatever.
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« Reply #83 on: October 02, 2005, 09:22:10 PM » |
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I hardly Doubt It Would Be "Clean Lag".
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« Reply #84 on: October 03, 2005, 03:59:17 PM » |
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Why the hell would you want more than 16 members in a server anyway? having more than eight is annoying cuz you end up getting a lot of player_0-7s in the room..
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